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PostPosted: 2012-08-15 05:53 
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Hi.
I'm using 5.4-B2012052801 on my LIVE server.
(I download it from viewtopic.php?f=10&t=21420 )
It runs no problem.

Today, I found B1944 on a download page.
hMailServer 5.4 - 1944 (692 downloads since 2012-08-08)

What is "1944", and which is the latest?


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 Post subject: Re: Build 1944 vs B2012052801
PostPosted: 2012-08-15 20:34 
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ikurua22 wrote:
Hi.
I'm using 5.4-B2012052801 on my LIVE server.
(I download it from viewtopic.php?f=10&t=21420 )
It runs no problem.

Today, I found B1944 on a download page.
hMailServer 5.4 - 1944 (692 downloads since 2012-08-08)

What is "1944", and which is the latest?


Go by release/build date..
* 1944 is newer and is OFFICIAL BETA RELEASE (as in from martin, creator of hmailserver).
* 5.4-B2012052801 is older than 1944 and an EXPERIMENTAL UNOFFICIAL TEST RELEASE (as in from me, a contributing developer of hmailserver).

Understand though that official releases do not have all changes that are in the experimental builds.. The experimental builds are just that.. A test bed for new features that might or might not make it into the official releases. You'd need to check the change-logs to know. Often experimental releases are used for "hot fixes" for issues people run into & need something ASAP & can't wait for official release. Usually those fixes make it into official releases but again you'd need to check the 2 change logs & compare.

Hope that helps clears it up.
Bill
Ps. Glad to hear you are using an experimental build & it's working well for you. I would not be hung up on using the 'latest' be it official release or experimental. Look at the changes & see if they matter to you & use your judgement.

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 Post subject: Re: Build 1944 vs B2012052801
PostPosted: 2012-08-16 11:10 
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Hmm... I'll wait "Production release" then.

5.3.3 (Prod) is released in 2010, 2years ago.
I think it's time to release version 5.4 as a production ver, because
my 5.4 test version runs no problem.

Just in my opinion :)


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 Post subject: Re: Build 1944 vs B2012052801
PostPosted: 2012-08-16 13:35 
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yes, many of us agree that 5.4 is very stable

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 Post subject: Re: Build 1944 vs B2012052801
PostPosted: 2012-08-16 18:48 
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ikurua22 wrote:
Hmm... I'll wait "Production release" then.

5.3.3 (Prod) is released in 2010, 2years ago.
I think it's time to release version 5.4 as a production ver, because
my 5.4 test version runs no problem.

Just in my opinion :)


No matter which version you are using, if it works for you & none of the updates/changes/fixes that are in change logs since then not much sense in upgrading & risking problems.

Only martin can release official builds of hmail so we wait on him. That is partly why I release the experimental builds because often something urgent comes up & there is no telling when an official might come along. Plus it gives us a test bed for playing with new things or tweaks.
Bill

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 Post subject: Re: Build 1944 vs B2012052801
PostPosted: 2012-09-19 11:50 
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Has this fix made it into the official Beta release 1944? Its changelog does not mention it, it doesn't mention much at all.
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2012-02-16
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* FIX: rolaids0 updates to how hmail formats headers to fix SA "RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS" issues & perhaps others.  Before: HELO ([ip]) After: HELO (PTR [ip]) Example Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.86]) becomes Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.86]) (I realize it looks redundant but normally they SHOULD match but having both values allows SA to do tests properly.

This was the only thing why I'm using the latest experimental release B2012052801 on my productive server.

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 Post subject: Re: Build 1944 vs B2012052801
PostPosted: 2012-09-19 15:36 
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Has this fix made it into the official Beta release 1944? Its changelog does not mention it, it doesn't mention much at all.
Code:
2012-02-16
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* FIX: rolaids0 updates to how hmail formats headers to fix SA "RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS" issues & perhaps others.  Before: HELO ([ip]) After: HELO (PTR [ip]) Example Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.86]) becomes Received: from bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.86]) (I realize it looks redundant but normally they SHOULD match but having both values allows SA to do tests properly.

This was the only thing why I'm using the latest experimental release B2012052801 on my productive server.


I don't believe that is in any official build yet based on SVN logs.

Btw if what you have works I wouldn't be in a hurry to 'upgrade' just cuz it's official. There could easily be new bugs or issues, possibly more than previous experimental. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Build 1944 vs B2012052801
PostPosted: 2013-01-09 11:17 
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Hey Bill,

do you or does anyone else know if the above mentioned SpamAssassin-fix made it into the new official Build 1945 from 2013-01-02?

I know that noone forces me to upgrade to official builds, but I'd just like to know if this fix is now in the regular codes, 'cause that's the only reason why I currently use an unofficial build.
The fix offers improved functionality when working with SA, so I really hope it'll make its way into the official releases.

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 Post subject: Re: Build 1944 vs B2012052801
PostPosted: 2013-01-11 07:49 
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Howdy. No I'm pretty sure it hasn't. I need to clean up my local copy & do some commits. Have been busy & not in a hurry to commit changes unless I expected an official release but I see I've missed a few now so suppose I need to find some time.
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 Post subject: Re: Build 1944 vs B2012052801
PostPosted: 2013-01-11 09:46 
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okay, take your time :-)
As long as that build works, I'm not in a hurry, too.

Please reply if you've had some time for those commits. I have this thread monitored. Thanks a lot!

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